In this tender and truth-filled episode, Jennifer sits down with Dr. Alice MacKinnon — emotion coach, mindfulness teacher, and proud apprentice to the way of the Crone. Together they explore what it really means to flourish from the inside out, to age as initiation, and to embody the calm, grounded wisdom that our world so deeply needs. Alice shares how Emotional Freedom Techniques, mindful movement, and gentle presence can help us return to ourselves as we navigate this powerful season of life — the time of the Wise Woman.
Links & References:
Connect With Alice MacKinnon
Website: https://www.aliceionamackinnon.com
Qigong with Alice: https://aliceionamackinnon.com/qigong-online-classes/
Connect With Jennifer Jefferies
Wise Woman Way with Jen & Alice: https://jenniferjefferies.com/the-wise-woman-way-101/
Show Note:
Becoming a Wise Woman @ 0:00
Jennifer and Alice discuss the journey of becoming a wise woman or “crone” – a process that is an ongoing apprenticeship rather than a destination. They explain how it involves releasing old patterns, embodying presence and emotional freedom, and deepening one’s connection to nature and the earth.
Accessing Inner Wisdom @ 6:17
Alice shares how as she has aged, she has gained a deeper understanding and compassion for her younger selves and inner parts. She has developed tools like tapping and qigong to calm her nervous system and access her inner wisdom and stillness.
Building Community @ 27:12
Jennifer and Alice discuss the importance of community and connection with other women on the wise woman path. They share examples of the supportive communities they have built, including online programs, in-person gatherings, and a “crone collective” they participate in.
Reclaiming the Crone @ 33:03
Jennifer and Alice explore the history and reclamation of the word “crone”, tracing its origins to “crown” and the power and wisdom of older women. They discuss ways that crones can use their voice and presence to positively impact the world, from peaceful protest to holding space for healing.
Closing Reflections @ 45:02
In closing, Alice offers a message of encouragement to women approaching or in this stage of life, reminding them that they deserve the richness, connection, and sense of purpose that this phase can bring. Jennifer emphasizes the importance of seeing oneself as worthy of a seat at the table.