In this intimate and inspiring conversation, Dr. Alice MacKinnon – no-nonsense emotion coach, five-time author, and surf-loving activist – opens up about coming out in her late 50s, the bushfire that changed everything, and the wisdom she’s apprenticing to as a present-day wise woman. From climate activism to the power of silence, from owning her PhD to buying her first surfboard at 46, Alice shares raw truths and hard-won insights on courage, purpose, and living in deep connection with the earth. This is one for every woman ready to rise – wholehearted and unapologetic.

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About Alice MacKinnon

Alice MacKinnon — no-nonsense Emotion Coach, five-time author, and surf-loving fitness, yoga, and qigong instructor — blends a PhD in Adult Learning with 24 years driving environmental and social change. Today, she guides clients through embodied, real-world practices that bring wellbeing, emotional freedom, and mindfulness to life — in the workplace, community, and home.

Show Note:

  • Alice’s Coming Out Story
    Alice shares how she came out as gay in her late 50s after a relationship with a trans man and a period of self-discovery. She reflects on the support of her family, her readiness for a long-term relationship, and how this journey led her to meet and fall in love with Jennifer.

  • Becoming a “Wise Woman”
    Alice discusses her aspiration to live as a “present-day wise woman,” inspired by North American grandmothers who weave together activism, spirituality, and wholehearted living.

  • Overcoming Hopelessness and Burnout
    After the devastating bushfires in her community, Alice faced deep hopelessness. She shares how reconnecting with nature, seeking support, and raising her voice at a climate protest reignited her sense of purpose.

  • Reflections on Age, Qualifications, and Self-Confidence
    Alice unpacks the journey of embracing her PhD title, owning her expertise, and moving past the tendency to downplay achievements—a struggle many women will recognise.

  • The Power of Silence and Stillness
    Alice highlights the healing power of silence and stillness in nature. She also shares Pablo Neruda’s stirring poem on collective silence and its potential to transform.

  • Closing Reflections and Resources
    Alice offers ways for listeners to connect with her work—through her books, love notes, and social media—while Jennifer reflects on Alice’s profound wisdom and impact.

This episode is for every woman ready to rise—wholehearted and unapologetic.
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